@cas but will 600 line long dockerfile blend

*will it blend theme starts playing*

@cas and it does certainly have features that make things less of a pain to deal with too

@cas well if it works it works, right? :D

systemd does seem to try to cover every usecase possible, for many they do this quite well TBH

@cas really depends on your usecases

@cas anyway sorry for the huge wall of text lol

@cas And basically I think folks should use what works best *for them*. Even if it's GNOME, even if it's KDE....

....really, you have the choice to use whatever you want

@cas But really, I as someone who uses such a sway setup, I still like KDE, GNOME, COSMIC ... even MATE... I still recognise that projects like them matter. In fact, I think having multiple unique desktop environments, with their own unique experience, matters a lot, because then you have the choice, and you can also obviously imagine that many folks could come up with new, unique UX (e.g. what we saw with GNOME 3 back in circa 2011).

And most importantly, users can have choice on which environment works best with their brain, and will let them work efficiently. For me, it is sway and tiling window managers, but before that it was .. guess what .. GNOME :)

@cas I think what 'minimalist' means depends on who you ask.

For example, I've been on sway + a handful of keybindings (which were ported from my dwl setup (which were ported from my dwm setup (which were ported from my awesomewm setup))) for a few years.. being able to launch everything I use with just a few keybindings is a major plus, and not having to mess around with window management also. It also all felt very user-friendly *to me*. So I mostly stopped using desktops like GNOME and KDE, but not out of hate. I'd still recommend these desktops to other people. I think having choice is great.

But guess what happened when I had to use a Windows 10 desktop after years of being exclusively on that setup.. I was, very confused, to say the least.

I also know of people, not all that tech-saavy, who used Linux exclusively for many years (GNOME, Cinnamon..) .. and for them, Windows is difficult and not user-friendly .. simply because they're used to the UI GNOME or Cinnamon provide.

TL;DR "user-friendlyness" is not the same across multiple different people, it can heavily depend from one person to another

@karolherbst @cas Especially a recent one with Android

@cas FSF is acting like bunch of politicians going "yes, I know computers".
Even their beloved ath9k (muh freedom!!) has firmware... because it has to. Try certifying a cellular modem without tamper protection (BootROM-enforced signature), good luck lmao.

Not gonna lie, as much as I hate Android... I jumped in my chair when I saw that LineageOS folks are working on getting it running with mainline kernels. Imagine dual-booting Linux/Android by using EFI services from U-Boot, that would be awesome.

@cas highly doubt that'll materialise at all in the end

I take the "hopefully they collab with pmOS" comment back

this is hilarious

@cas fun fact, 'chips' in french means crisps too

@cas the duck named google is listening to you

Unihertz Jelly Pro N (unihertz-nanot) porting update.

Found UART!!!! tx and rx are right next to each other. (tx is 2, rx is 1). The lk also seems to be a debug version, so *tons* of logging! Sadly, because of the positioning of the points, it is *really* hard to solder onto them...

Thanks to @mrkrckn for finding the points. They are on the screen-facing side of the board, so that's super amazing (not).

#Linux #PostMarketOS

@rnd year 203x: windows/macos sucks, they can't do a whole bunch of things linux can

you run neural models on GPUs or some sort of modern fixed function hardware.

i run neural models on the PS1 geometry transformation engine.

we are not the same.

*Hacker noise*

@_r I don't get what you mean.
Probably language barrier on my part...

(I hate xlibre though)