5,000 Jolla Phones pre-ordered in one week, driven by the community.

People showed there’s real demand for a European Linux phone built differently. The Jolla Phone reached 5,000 pre-orders organically, through community sharing and word of mouth. Thank you. We couldn’t have done this without you.

Next stop: 10,000 pre-orders to unlock The Other Half and open source the modular hardware & software interfaces.

👉 Pre-order the Jolla Phone: https://jolla.com/phone
📰 Read the press release: https://jolla.com/content/uploads/2025/12/Jolla-pre-order-campaign-sold-organically-5000-phones-in-a-week.pdf?x26973

#Jolla #SailfishOS #DeGoogle #european #DigitalSovereignty #CommunityPowered

@jolla I genuinely wonder why you didn't include the headphone jack though.
Sure, most people have bluetooth headphones now (or just blast brainrot on speakers in public transport...), but it would be nice to have a headphone jack (which isn't hard to implement).

I don't think enough people talk about it, but saturation of bluetooth devices on the train for instance makes bluetooth congestion *very* bad. My headphones tend to lose packets when I'm taking the train (no matter if I'm using them with phone or computer), and that's entirely caused by corporate greed and manufacturers getting rid of headphone jacks.

That's the reason why I'm using old Xiaomi Mi 9 Lite (xiaomi-pyxis) as a music player. 512GB microSD card loaded with FLACs I bought online or ripped CDs, stick a headphone jack in and you're good to go. Even ANC works if you turn headphones on before plugging the headphone jack in.

If you try to use any bluetooth accessory in places like Chaos Communication Congress, you'll be simply out of luck. Amount of bluetooth devices at the venue successfully jams the bluetooth band.

That's why having a headphone jack is important and we really need to start talking about bluetooth congestion problem in urban areas.

"Thinness" isn't an answer by the way. My KOHAKU (Samsung Galaxy Chromebook) is as thin as Google Pixel 6, but it has a headphone jack (as well as 2x USB-C and microSD reader).

MediaTek will be fun to mainline though.

@jolla Will factory resets be paywalled again?

@jackemled @jolla wait, they did what?

@perry @jolla Last time they made phones you had to pay to get a factory reset.

@jolla I appreciate the effort but please open source all components of your OS, otherwise I cannot in good concience recommend you and won’t consider buying my next phone from you

@elly @jolla I do not know about congestion but I do know that bluetooth for me is totally unreliable. The small devices have batteries and tiny buttons and are a total pain to charge, get lost and so on. Wired connections is what I use for headphones for that reason and bought my last phone because it has a jack. That said many jack sockets on my devices have broken off jacks in them and there is no way of getting the broken off jack out. Then bluetooth to the rescue....

@elly @jolla what's wrong with usbc-jack?

@wojtek @elly @jolla it’s a Pain in the Ass and sticks out like a literal sore thumb

@domi @elly @jolla why it's Pain In The Ass and where does it stick out?

You mostly need it to connect headphones to telephone so the adapter would be connected to headphones like 99,99999% of the time. You can get one more flexible/bended…

physical aspect wise IMHO it doesn't matter that much.

I do wonder about possible sound quality implications though…

@wojtek @domi @jolla
1. You can't charge your phone or connect any other accessories while having DAC connected (without additional adapters).
2. It's inconvenient to use.
3. You *will* lose it sooner or later.

Implementation costs pennies because both Qualcomm and MediaTek offer everything needed to implement it as a standard package.

@elly @domi @jolla how

1. how often do you need to liaten and charge at thr same time? (also - you can get pass-through adapter)

2. jack is quite strong. but in such case maybe invest jn powerglue?

3. coat is not insignificant becasue its another hole and another port in the device...

@wojtek @elly @jolla do you just like excusing manufacturers imitating apple, or…?

@elly @domi @wojtek @jolla I am in this situation myself, after switching from my Poco F1 to a Fairphone 5, much to my disappointement I realised it doesn't have a headphone jack...

Right now I use an adapter, but I mean, I had to buy that adapter separately, and frankly it's just more convenient to just have the jack built-in. I can also lose it at any point...

(And no I don't charge my phone while having headphones connected.)

@fun @domi @elly @jolla So maybe next time pay more attention to what you are buying? ;)

and the cost of the adapter ruined you? (hint: you won't have to buy it with every new phone!)

Also: how long do you have it? do you imagine actually loosing it? would probabily of loosing the adapter be on par with loosing the headphonese as well? ;)

@jolla
I love the orange case in batch 3, but when will someone make an android phone that is _smaller than 5.6cm_?
What I'm seeing is that the physical dimensions of the Jolla are 6.3cm. I'm tired of carrying a miniTV. I want my handheld to actually fit my hand. Elegantly. Ergonomically.

@jolla Please consider making a video around the phone, just like you did with the C2.

Having a face behind it might get more people to validate this phones legitimacy. After all, how many have heard about #sailfishOS before?
#linuxphones #jolla

I bet @SomeGadgetGuy would LOVE to get involved with SFOS too, even though he's from the US. 😉

@Muppensish I've spent the last week reading the forum and watching 10 year old videos trying to learn more about Sailfish. It would be very helpful to have a more up to date demo.

@Muppensish @jolla @SomeGadgetGuy Oh, please Jolla, make video of the J2! For us knowing you it would be very intriguing and for those that found you first time, it could boost legitimacy as @Muppensish said.

#jolla #nextgenjollaphone #linux #SailfishOS #european

@Antti98 @Muppensish @jolla
I'm definitely interested in covering them. I genuinely dont know how much attention I could bring to the idea, but it would definitely track with the rest of my "competition is the most important" gadget coverage. Sure would be nice to have some pressure on iOS/Android.

@SomeGadgetGuy Another catalyst for your rants sounds really good!

You're one of the better choices when it comes to reaching mindful nerds in the US after all 😀

@Muppensish I'm trying. It's tough to beat all the marketing...

@SomeGadgetGuy side channel "SomeOpenSourceGuy" or perhaps that as a youtube shorts persona.
"The SOSG of this short"

@Muppensish
Oh man I wish it were that easy. That whole era of starting new channels just doesnt really work anymore unless you have the ability to work the equivalent of a full time job per channel, and you have some magical way of getting a TON of views RIGHT at the launch of the new channel.
It's why all those crappy content farms make bank. YT knows they can count on indentured servant labor to CHURN out constant crap videos.

@SomeGadgetGuy It's a terrible situation. When will an alternative to yt be viable?

@Antti98 glad my idea was good 😄

@jolla Please consider a smaller option at some point. Many of us are "stuck" with things like iPhone Mini and would love to switch!

@jolla I totally get why you aren't doing this (yet), but I really wish y'all sold this in the States, because I'd love to use one so so so bad. Even if it's just as my "messing around" device.

@jolla I think real demand starts at 500,000. Right now, as much as I like it, it's merely a curiosity.

@Zygmunt Krynicki so what?

@jabgoe2089 I think the blurb of the article is not fair with reality. Ib reality there is no market for this. So many non mainstream phone OSes have already proved that point. It is interesting and cool, but pretty unfair to claim there is actual market demand and to justify that with a 5000 unit sales figure across a market of 300-400 million people.

@zygoon I understand your point, but I disagree to the degree as out of those 300-400M people, almost nobody knows Jolla. To have big enough marketing budget, company would need to have heavy stock of cash before trying 500k figures.

Jolla was established in 2011, so not a new company. It has focused for B2B sales. But here it finally again gaining fraction without any marketing budget. If with this phone they can get 10k's of new people use it, maybe with next phone 500k sale target? ;)

@Antti98 I wish them well. I think it still needs to show a viable business plan that works. Looking at Nothing as an android phone vendor, they sold 100K units of their low/midrange phone 2a on first day. That is only one of several other devices they make. Despite that number I worry they will go under as margins on such devices are shockingly low and it takes a lot of money to just keep the lights on. Jolla has a higher base internal cost as development is largely custom.

@zygoon Business plan relies on B2B side. I think game is much tougher in B2C for Jolla as transferring to android phone from android phone is super simple. People worry that their apps wouldn't work with SFOS (most of do work out of the box). What Jolla is trying to achieve here is probably good platform to build on. Currently they haven't had anything viable for wider audience. Hopefully after launch they could get these to some retails to push the numbers. Unlike Nothing, Jolla is SW company

@Antti98 what is the business appeal though? Why would a business choose to use Jolla's platform over enrolling into managed iOS or Android?

@Zygmunt Krynicki so what? do you want to tell me that i'm not allowed to buy this phone because you think it's not justified?

@zygoon In my head, SFOS isn't constantly calling home or in other ways mining data. It is much lighter OS and you have more control over it. I would imagine that to be quite appealing for European companies especially. Kind of the same why it should be appealing for consumers also, but consumers generally don't care about their data like businesses.

Also I think the automotive industry brings in the big €. They have sister company Seafarix which probably is making quite nice business.

IMO

@Antti98 I doubt they can "not phone home" and "run android apps people need to run their business" in one device. It's either play services or no useful apps. Without play services you cut out a huge chunk of what works. Without cutting play services and using alternative apps you get internal phone home semantics.

Besides, what does phone home exactly?

@zygoon SFOS solution to run android apps is to run them isolated container, outside of SFOS. To my understanding you can even install play services, but most people just use F-droid/Aurora+MicroG option. Has to mention that videos I have seen, Jolla has integrated the Android side quite seamlessly to the main OS for example apps are launched from same place as native ones. They just launch inside the container. You can keep all your private data that you want on SFOS side.

@Antti98 this assumes the data that is "precious" is not inside that android container. What kind of apps would you run on the other side? What kind of apps even work on a phone? Handful. Probably.

@zygoon What I have been able to gather, I probably wouldn't use much outside of banking apps + whatsapp inside the AAS (Android App Support = container). Might be that I stumble to some apps that I need to also use inside AAS but SFOS has quite stunning number of native apps as it is so old OS. Native browser is based on quite old Gecko engine so I probably use some browser inside AAS.

Check https://sailfishos-chum.github.io/apps/index.html

That contains only SFOS native apps. And there is 2 other app stores also

@Antti98 right so the bank, browser and IM are on the android side. Isn't that like 99% of the value in case of malware has access to your device?

@zygoon I think perfect is worst enemy of good. My aim to is gradually move to use more and more European options. SailfishOS with AAS kind of nicely ties everything together. I can't currently stop using all of the android apps, but I can start with quite a big portion already. And support independent European solution in meantime!

That is good enough for me now. I hope Jolla can get enough traction that it could get critical mass behind it so there would be more official apps also

@jolla Congrats!!

@jolla I am thrilled to have pre-ordered a Jolla phone, and I am eagerly waiting for my friends to send it to me in Iran so that I can start using it.

I know it might be challenging, but if you could offer direct shipping to Iranian users as well, I believe countless Iranian users would be keen to purchase a Jolla.

@jolla

This is great, and EU. 😊

One small question, will there be a smaller sized version in the future? Some people might want a bit more compact phone, and they are really hard to find.

@lokjo @jolla I am not affiliated with Jolla, but they have said that they chose the components off the shelf. And that they tried to go as small screen as possible but there wasn't any suitable component options unfortunately. Without enough backing and funding, they can't start to design and buying components they want but they rely what is on the market.

So unfortunately for now my guess is no in near future. But let's hope for the future! In my dream they publish another phone in 4 year

@Antti98 @jolla

Thanks for the insight Antti, and understandable when you look at it.

Let's hope they'll offer a smaller version soon. :)

@lokjo @jolla Lets keep our fingers crossed! Community voted for between 5"-6" screen size so Jolla is definitely aware what community wants.

Now we just need the components for smaller phone so they can fulfil the dream of many :)

@jabgoe2089 this is not what I said.

@Zygmunt Krynicki

Ib reality there is no market for this. So many non mainstream phone OSes have already proved that point.

more than 5000 people have bought this new jolla phone without even seeing it. and your comment is that nobody wants it, that there is no market for this.  so if it's not 400 million people buying stuff this stuff has no market? so what about me? am i allowed to buy it even though you deny the existence of a market for it? do i have to give it back, because it's not 300 million people wanting to buy a sailfish phone?

@jabgoe2089 I argue that words have meaning that is common across bias. So far there's proof for a tiny fraction of a population that shows some sort of demand, here by voting with their wallet. History shows that there's no sustained demand that would allow such non-Android/iOS phone manufacturers and vendors to survive in the market.

I do not see how you extrapolate what I said to your ability or permission to spend your money.

@Zygmunt Krynicki  

tiny fraction of a population that shows some sort of demand, here by voting with their wallet

come on. people here are enthused about the possibility that there might be another jolla phone coming up and your judgement is: there's no market for that!

it's like going to a farmers' market and telling the guys who buy honey from a local producer with 20 hives that there is absolutely no market for this unless the seller is able to sell hectolitres of honey at once.

@jabgoe2089 I _am_ excited but I'm also very touchy about saying something that is exaggerating the situation.

I've been on the original Ubuntu Phone team, I see people do amazing and cool things with their custom phones half a decade later.

But be honest with your customers as to what this is. It's 90% likely this will just die again. There's only marginal demand and unclear sustainability model.

@dubstar_04 Hah likewise!
On the plus side, It makes it very rewarding to learn about it now.

I replaced my moms Xperia 10 III a while ago with a repaired note 20 Ultra. So the moment I got home after the Jolla announcement, I flashed it.
"Daily driving" sailfish now, just to prepare for the Jolla phone 😅

@Muppensish amazing! I purchased a Sony Xperia 10 iii. It's going to be delivered tomorrow!

@Antti98 I hope so too. We still lack a good IM solution that is not Signal level complex for average consumers.

On your point of perfect vs good: android and iOS are already good enough. I hope I'm wrong and we won't have to read another Jolla obituary next year.

@zygoon Definitely agree on IM side, I would prefer European alternative. I find signal as an easy option compared to matrix and others that don't use phone numbers.

For me android isn't good enough as I don't like the Google's data mining. I try to de-google. IOS isn't for me either as it is so closed. I think we deserve better + I really want to switch to use European options which respect European legislation.

@Antti98 I think we are a long way from that. There is no social acceptance of a third option. At best the third option is the one from China.

For the foreseeable future the best choice is still android and iOS with an increasingly EU sovereign application ecosystem. Europe is sadly not the place where you get new and exciting things like that. To break into an existing market, in some ways, you need to be a predator worse than the existing pack.

All my wishes to Jolla for finding a way.

@dubstar_04 I hope it suits your needs well!
So far my needs are very basic. But in due time I'll dabble in the terminal. Be sure to share any tips for it, if you find any 😀

@zygoon I think there isn't social acceptance as people don't even know there is third option.

Why wouldn't we get exciting things from Europe? Hech, European invented the whole mobilephone.

But if we don't start the journey, we also won't ever reach the end. Only time will tell, but I would argue that there is demand for European option. Now we would just need to spread the word so people could find it and see what happens

@Antti98 can you name something tech that is made in Europe and is taking over something made in the US? I think because largely companies over there have access to a larger market with one language, easier targets, and can be way more exploitative without being illegal, even if many would find that immoral.

EDIT: I forgot to mention, way more VC funding and ultra rich enterprises that can fund new things. I don't think we have any of that here.

@zygoon Well I am not that interested what US does inside their sandbox. But for example Nokia and Ericson still dominates mobile network technology. Iceyen has developed satellites everyone seems to be intrested. Patria is making APC that everyone seems to be intrested. Oura has conquered even US with their rings.

But definitely agree that they have easier internal markets. Hopefully something about that would be done in EU quickly!

@zygoon And these are only things from Finland, much more surely in Europe.

@jolla I've placed a order.

@zygoon Luckily if I get malware to my device AAS can't be touched as it is isolated ;) But if you meant that I still give most of my crucial data to android side, then kind of yes. But I use less and less whatsapp, more other options, which I can use natively. Browser problem hopefully will be fixed.

I hope in the long run I can run banking apps also in the native side, but we are not there yet. AAS offers easier way to switch for average Joe. Luckily all the time there is more native apps

@jolla there is very little upto date information about Sailfish OS. It would be amazing to get sailfish in the hands of reviewers like @thelinuxEXP and make people aware that it exists!

@senil I'm just another person online, but I'd love to help you getting a device if you want to.

Just hit me up if your curiosity is unyielding 😅

@jolla great news!

will you mainline all drivers?

@jolla Ate there any plans for a smaller model?

@jonas175 I told my guess to this in this post: https://mastodon.social/@Antti98/115733730491891850

@jolla congratulations!