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dmi 💽 soon -> FOSDEM

my #39c3 art project is done! I took a VHS-C camcorder to the event and did my best to capture the vibe and art installations without violating the photopolicy.

It’s my first highly-edited video in over 5 years, so please excuse the roughness around some edges. Hope you enjoy it!

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@domi when the congress accidentally falls into the time portal to 1999

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@domi amazing f{ilm,alafel}

42 crashes, couldn't have chosen a better number to stop editing

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@domi i have no idea what I just watched but it was definitely cool

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@luap42 @domi if you want further clarification you can ask our expert @famfo

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@domi amazing! Great work
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@domi the ccc backrooms... wow, can't believe we got c3 analog horror /j
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@domi Omg, now I‘m so happy to not have watched the RCs to be able to experience this first time in it‘s final form.

Straight up masterpiece, absolutely enjoyed it, worth every blender crash! neobot_floof_happy

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@domi look mom my hands are on Øl TV! neofox_lul

(new name and logo for eth0 voc? 👀)

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@Johann150 oh! i didn’t know you were you! :D

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@domi Also now I also fancy wanna see this backstage areas you were in in the video

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@domi the camcorder perfectly captures the energy of being at congress, really feels like being in some 90s internet pocket universe

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@domi Were the huge posts with lights in room H (the ones with loud air compressors) not there during buildup? (I thought they were part of CCH, because I couldn't see how one could disassemble them to a more manageable length; if I'm wrong I'm curious who brought them.)
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@robryk afaik they’re permenent in there, but we add some deco to the outside. there are some visible arount 00:57 - 01:05 in the vid

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@domi Yeah, you're right. (I managed to look at those timestamps and miss them in the background ^^*)
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@domi @robryk they're not permanent. we've built them up every year
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@yaya @domi Do you bring the metal lattice columns, or are they local and you build on them? If former, I'm curious how you transport them (I couldn't find any joint on them).
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@domi I saw you with the retro camera at Lastenaufzug Ost. 😃 We were waiting to transport some tables to the cellar. You came through the red door and decided to take the long-white-hall-scene first, waiting for us to disappear. 😂

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@c0c0bird o yeah, i remember that! anxiety and not wanting to bother others made me mostly take safe shots instead of asking if someone wants to be in frame

hope i didn’t bother y’all too much :)

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@robryk @domi This entire thing consists of three parts that are assembled and disassembled on site: the foundation (the big metal cross) followed the metal columns and on top the movable lattice where the lights were mounted.

Here are some pictures of it from last year's teardown
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@domi this rocked I watched the entire thing

Good short version would be without the sidequests, just the good vibes music with the pictures

also funny how your camera performs completely ok inside but the tube(?) is completely.shot in daylight
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@aetios yeah something about the light intensity measurement is cooked. idk why exactly. the CCD itself also doesn’t like being overexposed for too long, but artifacts only appear after 30+min of continous use

also: the outdoor footage was most heavily color graded by me of everything. it was originally even worse XD

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@domi come to congress, we've got smash

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@domi as OlTele's chief design officer I say: perfection
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@domi damn denise once fixed a printer AND is behind me?? can denise fix my printer right now?? /s

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@domi Very nice versatile experience. Thank you for showing and documenting your experience and feelings! :3

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@domi This mess of a video increased yet again my desire to attend 40c3.
10/10

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@domi I love it. I think i have to bring one of my Fullsize VHS cameras with me next time. Thank you for inspiring me :3

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@domi btw I do hear this comment (feeling alone despite 15k people around you) more often and it would be interesting to think about this in the future. Maybe together, if you want. At bornhack mayb?
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@aetios it kinda became a fact of life for me on congress, also why I wanted to bring some light to it. happy to talk about it :)

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@domi Amazing! Has some kind of "the backrooms" feel to it, but on the other hand reminds me of old Congress in Berlin. The VHS video and lighting makes Saal 1 look like the old room in Haus am Kölnischen Park. Kudos!

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@domi I love all of the slightly jerky manual zooms sm.... it's such a vibe

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@domi this is so nostalgic... blahaj
But wasn't it like... Last year? 🤔😁

Anyways, amazing work. Thank you for capturing these moments! yayblob

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@domi “It’s a VHS video, I know this!” blobcataww

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@domi What video editor did you use, BTW?
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@fun i’m so glad you asked!

it was blender. i like it quite a lot, i think i’m gonna like it even more when i learn all the keybinds!

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@domi Ohhhh, that's a very cool one :D

BTW: Your blender is crashing from time to time? I have even better, mine doesn't even launch at all and generates tons of nouveau errors in its output and in dmesg :P
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@fun y-yeah

i’m on proprietary nvidia drivers and they SUCK. hopefully getting a proper PC next week, i’ll have my amdgpu back

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@domi well I can't even use them because alpine doesn't support them and even if they did the one for my card hasn't been updated in years
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@fun this system is void purely because nvidia

… i have nothing but regrets, i want my comfy alpine userspace bacck

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@domi In general anything that dares use that GPU either ends up not launching at all or it's unusable and has a whole bunch of graphic artifacts
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@domi I can't even use the integrated intel GPU (it's a laptop), because hp thought it would be a very cool idea to just disable it electrically. So I have an intel GPU in theory, but it's hardwired to off for dear life. And everything display is hardwired to the nvidia gpu
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@domi Yeah same, that very same computer I use also came in an AMD FirePro variant... I wonder why I didn't get that one instead
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@domi @fun yooo *you* have nvidia-src packaged in alpine :p

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@fossdd @fun this card is too old for it throwing-hands-up-crying

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@fossdd @fun also i did that as a joke

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@fossdd @domi I'm in this exact situation :P card too old for anything, even nouveau doesn't support it very well because most work (understandably, these folks typically do this in their freetime or something) moved to the newer cards
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@fossdd @domi Hopefully I won't have to deal with this nonsense anymore once I get myself an mnt reform
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@domi omg. I’m officially requesting a guided backstage tour of now (with VHS video documentation of course)

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@skoops are you associated with orga? /genq

this would be doable (even with the signature instructional tape narrator voice), but i’d need to shoot more footage during very early 40c3 buildup. also shouldn’t be too hard to edit, so if i’m there on the ~16th, i can probably get it out by 18-20th (and then it’ll be actually useful to new angels)

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@domi nope, sorry. not with orga. I was more thinking of a guided tour of the backstage areas by you ;)

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@robryk @domi I took a photo of hall H on day 5 during teardown, you can peep them in all their half-disassembled glory. Outside of the shot a couple were unbolted so the individual box sections could be lifted

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@merlin you need to get in on the production of one of my next movies. i’d love to have a merlin on screen

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@domi tell me where to be and what to say and that can be arranged!

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@domi it has been thinking about bringing its camcorder (video8) to 40c3 (if it is able to go). now it definitely will

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@0x6e6174 i’m planning on getting some pro video8 camcorders, ones that properly go on your shoulder (to reduce the shakycam xD). definitely gonna take that to 40c3, although I want to aim for a drastically different end result for that future supercut. no spoilers for now!! ^^

also: omg!! natalie on congress!!! i’m gonna cuddle this one so hard neocat_reach

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@jana @merlin i’m sure we’ll find a chance for that this year ^w^

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@domi ooooh, excited to see next years supercut

and yeah, hopefully it will be at 40c3. this is probably rather dependent on it getting a job though, and that is going about as poorly as one would expect. there will be much cuddling should it succeed, however!

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@0x6e6174 /me is getting excited for IRL nataliee :3

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@domi This is soo cool <3

I can relate to the point about feeling alone. Especially this year, I felt more distant the the others I was there (partly because personal reasons and partly because I don't really have a community I belong to there).
The whole building is filled with people who share the same interests but I am too scared to even go near an assembly in case I annoy them or don't know what to say...

Last year I could compensate by giving a talk, the year before that by being there for the first time. But this year, idk.

Anyway, after all this sad talk, here is my dog trying to stop me from watching this masterpeace^^
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@domi But congress was still awesome, don't get me wrong^^ I just feel like I am missing out by just being there by myself
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