@pabloyoyoista @noisytoot @greytheearthling @moses_izumi @McNeely @elementary @cas @postmarketOS I heard people saying that pmOS is to Alpine what Ubuntu is to Debian (in a good way)

and I guess you could say that

@moses_izumi @cas @postmarketOS we already support any x86_64 computer as well as a good number of chromebooks.

I cannot understand the mindset of a (I hope small) subset of the free software community that software-related freedoms can never be impinged upon, but it's fine to remove arbitrary other freedoms that have a greater impact on people's lives

Every company right now for some reason

@moses_izumi @cas @postmarketOS Alpine seems to mostly target i686 right now (they said i586 but many packages disagree, so it's kind of a mix between i586 and i686 toolchain...)

@noisytoot @McNeely @cas @elementary @greytheearthling @moses_izumi @postmarketOS because it's pretty much a pre-configured user-friendly version of Alpine Linux, for these computers.

Plus running the same OS on both your phone and laptop is kewl

@Logical_Error @moses_izumi @cas @postmarketOS I wouldn't exclude the possibility of reintroducing armhf again, but that'll need a lot of work to fix it in alpine first

@moses_izumi @cas @postmarketOS Any you want: https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Category:Interface

Get out

If you hate DHH and vibe coding, come help Redox. Here he is throwing a temper tantrum over our no-AI policy:

https://x.com/dhh/status/2097559561993326752

DHH says "The number of Linux distros and projects that have these batty Al policies is baffling. Like rejecting the railroad because you like to pet donkeys. Oh well, more tokens for Omarchy!"

Followed by a screenshot of Redox OS's AI policy which forbids LLM generated contributions.

https://gitlab.redox-os.org/redox-os/redox/-/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md?ref_type=heads#ai-policy

@McNeely @cas @moses_izumi @greytheearthling @elementary @postmarketOS Historically it kind of was. But nowadays pmOS is about increasing the longevity of consumer devices in general, not just phones but also tablets, computers and even TV boxes.

@cas @moses_izumi @postmarketOS It is important to read the context behind dropping x86: https://gitlab.postmarketos.org/postmarketOS/pmaports/-/merge_requests/9521

@elly @moses_izumi @cas @postmarketOS why isn't it our main focus? Our main focus is to extend the longevity of consumer devices, this can be desktops, laptops, phones, smartwatches, TV boxes, anything that can run linux really. Unlike what people say, we are not purely a mobile-focused distro

@moses_izumi @postmarketOS It will.

@cas @moses_izumi @postmarketOS like, the reason we dropped armhf also had nothing to do with how old it is. It had entirely everything to do with maintenance of that arch not being very good, and very few devices to justify the trouble.

@cas @moses_izumi @postmarketOS No, x86 was not dropped because it was broken. It was dropped because there aren't many x86 devices supported at the moment and so we were building packages for an architecture that had no device ports.

It will come back probably when I get around to doing a generic x86 port (which I actually was interested in doing).

> ofc it's a catch-22 a bit but imho our focus and compute is better spent pushing the envelope forward than languishing in obsolete tech (especially when it's clear that the tech doesn't tie into our mission).

the goal of postmarketOS is to extend the life of consumer devices. I really don't see why extending the life of old x86 devices wouldn't count? It's clear that it does tie into our mission, so?

I never thought this would pay off, but here we are.

My date of certificate expiry is now automation actually triggered.

#manjaro #linux #manjarolinux #ssl #tls

@thomholwerda AFAIK Qt tends to be lighter on resources due to having a focus on low-power embedded hardware.

That said GNOME runs just fine on a 4th gen i5 with no animation skipping? Would be useful to know what hardware you are running it on.