Vengeful Mouse
algernon@come-from.mad-scientist.club@faxmodem Because while it would be technically correct, it wouldn't send a Message™: that pronouns are fine, actually, and the chcoice is mine.
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algernon@come-from.mad-scientist.club
A few clarifications: I meant gendered pronouns. My mother tongue (Hungarian) does have pronouns, but they aren't gendered. I'm not going to edit the poll, because I don't want to clear the votes. Apologies for not being clear!
Second: one of the reasons I'm not defaulting to "he/him" is that while it would be mostly1 correct, I... wish to do more to break down stereotypes. For example, if I were to use "any/all", that may suggest to some that I'm genderfluid (I guess?). If a beardy, hairy, clearly masc dude can be genderfluid, anyone can. I don't mind if anyone thinks I'm queer. Frankly, that would be an honour!
"they/them" would help normalize singular they (or plurality! I'm fine with helping both).
All "he/him" does is show that a white dude can use his assigned-at-birth gendered pronouns BS. That's a step, yes, but... I kinda feel like I can take a larger step there.
Perhaps - as some suggested in other replies - something like "he/they/it/any" could do the trick too, signalling that I leave it up to the other party to decide. That's tempting too, but... I'd still prefer to go with a single pair. Feels like that's a stronger stance.
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algernon@come-from.mad-scientist.club@noisytoot Hm. Maybe too many poll options? (there's 6, iirc some fedi software limit it to 5)
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noisytootShow content
May 10 15:12:21 hazelnut mix[2223]: 15:12:21.550 [error] Object rejected while fetching https://come-from.mad-scientist.club/@algernon/statuses/01KR77FJG8EBME96V384XWN8J6 {:transmogrifier, {:error, {:validate, {:error, #Ecto.Changeset<action: :insert, changes: %{closed: "2026-05-10T20:39:52Z", id: "https://come-from.mad-scientist.club/users/algernon/statuses/01KR77FJG8EBME96V384XWN8J6", type: "Question", context: "https://come-from.mad-scientist.club/users/algernon/statuses/01KR77FJG8EBME96V384XWN8J6", cc: ["https://come-from.mad-scientist.club/users/algernon/followers"], to: ["https://www.w3.org/ns/activitystreams#Public"], url: "https://come-from.mad-scientist.club/@algernon/statuses/01KR77FJG8EBME96V384XWN8J6", content: "<p>Hmmhmm. What should I put down as my pronouns on my <a href=\"https://come-from.mad-scientist.club/tags/rustweek\" class=\"mention hashtag\" rel=\"tag nofollow noreferrer noopener\" target=\"_blank\">#<span>Rustweek</span></a> badge? Personally, I don't care - my mother tongue has no pronouns, whatever people use in English makes no difference to me.</p><p>I could use he/him, because I am a cishet male<sup id=\"01KR77FJG8EBME96V384XWN8J6-fnref:1\"><a href=\"#01KR77FJG8EBME96V384XWN8J6-fn:1\" class=\"footnote-ref\" role=\"doc-noteref\">1</a></sup>. But I kind of want to help normalize pronouns, and he/him... doesn't really do that, not in the current state of our society. So... I'm thinking they/them, or leaning into the mouse persona<sup id=\"01KR77FJG8EBME96V384XWN8J6-fnref:2\"><a href=\"#01KR77FJG8EBME96V384XWN8J6-fn:2\" class=\"footnote-ref\" role=\"doc-noteref\">2</a></sup> and go with it/its. Or any/all? Or something else?</p><p>If I want to be a good ally, people and other entities for whom pronouns are important, what would you make <em>you</em> feel more comfortable when seen on the badge of a white dude?</p><div><hr><ol><li id=\"01KR77FJG8EBME96V384XWN8J6-fn:1\"><p>I know! Boring. 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I might play with vulnerable crawlers, but that doesn't make me work in itsec.\u00A0<a href=\"#01KR77FJG8EBME96V384XWN8J6-fnref:2\" class=\"footnote-backref\" role=\"doc-backlink\">↩︎</a></p></li></ol></div>", actor: "https://come-from.mad-scientist.club/users/algernon", published: "2026-05-09T20:39:52Z", oneOf: [#Ecto.Changeset<action: :insert, changes: %{name: "he/him", type: "Note", replies: #Ecto.Changeset<action: :insert, changes: %{type: "Collection", totalItems: 10}, errors: [], data: #Pleroma.Web.ActivityPub.ObjectValidators.QuestionOptionsValidator.Replies<>, valid?: true, ...>}, errors: [], data: #Pleroma.Web.ActivityPub.ObjectValidators.QuestionOptionsValidator<>, valid?: true, ...>, #Ecto.Changeset<action: :insert, changes: %{name: "they/them", type: "Note", replies: #Ecto.Changeset<action: :insert, changes: %{type: "Collection", totalItems: 7}, errors: [], data: #Pleroma.Web.ActivityPub.ObjectValidators.QuestionOptionsValidator.Replies<>, valid?: true, ...>}, errors: [], data: #Pleroma.Web.ActivityPub.ObjectValidators.QuestionOptionsValidator<>, valid?: true, ...>, #Ecto.Changeset<action: :insert, changes: %{name: "it/its", type: "Note", replies: #Ecto.Changeset<action: :insert, changes: %{type: "Collection", totalItems: 5}, errors: [], data: #Pleroma.Web.ActivityPub.ObjectValidators.QuestionOptionsValidator.Replies<>, valid?: true, ...>}, errors: [], data: #Pleroma.Web.ActivityPub.ObjectValidators.QuestionOptionsValidator<>, valid?: true, ...>, #Ecto.Changeset<action: :insert, changes: %{name: "any/all", type: "Note", replies: #Ecto.Changeset<action: :insert, changes: %{type: "Collection", totalItems: 8}, errors: [], data: #Pleroma.Web.ActivityPub.ObjectValidators.QuestionOptionsValidator.Replies<>, valid?: true, ...>}, errors: [], data: #Pleroma.Web.ActivityPub.ObjectValidators.QuestionOptionsValidator<>, valid?: true, ...>, #Ecto.Changeset<action: :insert, changes: %{name: "I have a better suggestion", type: "Note", replies: #Ecto.Changeset<action: :insert, changes: %{type: "Collection", totalItems: 1}, errors: [], data: #Pleroma.Web.ActivityPub.ObjectValidators.QuestionOptionsValidator.Replies<>, valid?: true, ...>}, errors: [], data: #Pleroma.Web.ActivityPub.ObjectValidators.QuestionOptionsValidator<>, valid?: true, ...>, #Ecto.Changeset<action: :insert, changes: %{name: "This is a silly idea", type: "Note", replies: #Ecto.Changeset<action: :insert, changes: %{type: "Collection", totalItems: 1}, errors: [], data: #Pleroma.Web.ActivityPub.ObjectValidators.QuestionOptionsValidator.Replies<>, valid?: true, ...>}, errors: [], data: #Pleroma.Web.ActivityPub.ObjectValidators.QuestionOptionsValidator<>, valid?: true, ...>], attributedTo: "https://come-from.mad-scientist.club/users/algernon"}, errors: [tag: {"is invalid", [validation: :embed, type: {:array, :map}]}], data: #Pleroma.Web.ActivityPub.ObjectValidators.QuestionValidator<>, valid?: false, ...>}}}}
Vengeful Mouse
algernon@come-from.mad-scientist.clubShow content
@noisytoot Nothing I can do about it on my end, I think - I'll report it to GtS upstream with your logs included.
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@algernon @noisytoot not federating towards me either ^^
re: that post: the work on iocaine is more adjacent to itsec than not, and there are plenty of non-techie furries around anyhow :3 the denial is starting to become a little silly
if you don’t care and he/him feels a little boring, any/all it is. Or it/its if you’re curious if anyone can crack the therian egg :3c
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algernon@come-from.mad-scientist.clubShow content
@noisytoot Reported upstream. Thanks for confirming the problem on your end too, @hsza!
Re: furries: I know its silly, that's why I continue denying it like that - it's a fun play, because it's such an obvious fake! But that is all it is, a play. There is no egg to crack there, I'm afraid.
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algernon@come-from.mad-scientist.clubAlthough there's an hour left on this poll, I submitted my profile update to Rustweek, to get it out of the way before last minute panic hits.
I ended up with "it/its", to lean into the mouse persona. That feels more impactful than "any/all" or "they/them", and closer to reality1.
But! If (when?) I present next, I'll use different pronouns. I'll rotate them like I rotate my avatar. Next time someone asks how to introduce me, I'll tell them to use multiple pronouns. Not as "he/they/them", but "he" in one sentence, "it" in another, "them" in a third, or something along those lines.
Reality being: I don't care, but I want to send a message. ↩︎
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@algernon i feel like now that contractually forces you to show up with mouse ears
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@SharpLimefox Not sure I can make that happen. But the mouse persona will be there in some form.
If I have to pull it out of a hat, I will.
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algernon@come-from.mad-scientist.club"He's a serial drive-by contributor, they have patches in keyboard firmware, in Debian tooling, syslog-ng, and a whole lot of other things. Lately it's messing with crawlers with iocaine."
Something along those lines.
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