RE: https://tldr.nettime.org/@tante/116880003584050912

I’d like to offer a contrary perspective here.

I hate slop: slop probably played a role in why I lost my job recently; slopcode is shit, and I wish it didn’t exist.

But I personally am concerned about the increased burden on the (already overstretched) moderation team from having to enforce this rule. Slop is much less problematic than everything else the team deals with, and moderating slop would take our limited time and resources away from dealing with *really* bad content.

But this is only my personal perspective, not a view of the whole presidium. @Gusted is one of the people pushing this ToU change and is also on presidium.

On the other hand, please do vote for the other statement saying Codeberg will never use your content to train its own slop machine :-)

@tante

I am neutral on the cryptocurrency-related one for reasons too complex for me to explain in my current state of tiredness

@dpk i don't think anyone is going to expect enforcement to be better than any other aspect of all the shit the overstretched codeberg team has to deal with. but a position is useful.

@dpk I wonder how much enforcement is really necessary. Just banning the obvious ones automatically (with commits by Claude and friends) and let the rest be pointed out and shamed by the community. IMO it’s not about keeping up purity but having a stance and sending a message.

@jlink @dpk if you automatically ban only projects which are clearly labelled as slop, my concern is that this will cause people to simply not label their slop (which is much worse since it makes it harder to avoid)

@dpk @tante I believe a rule written like this one—ban on actual vibe-coding and not on any kind of LLM-assisted contributions—is absolutely uncontroversial. It’s simply the general rule on spam restated.

@dpk @tante a decision to ban cryptocurrency projects would, however (because nothing happens in a vacuum), effectively support centralized banking controlled by fascist governments, which is certainly against Codeberg values

@dpk yeah I voted against that one

Anyway uh yeah hire me

@dpk

No, its your management who got rid of you on the hope and prayer that #LLMs will replace human intelligence.

Managers and owners have always salivated in getting rid of all labor. And the current ai techbros are promising the world that they'll "solve" employment.

I'm sorry your former management didn't do their due diligence, and got rid of essential people, on the hope that an LLM could replace you. Simply said, they can't.

@noisytoot @dpk Why risk being banned later when you have alternatives for hosting your project. I chose Codeberg because of its ethical approach in different aspects. If I didn’t like them why should I go there.

But yeah, we can only speculate about the implications.

@crankylinuxuser Thank you for the lecture on how I lost my own job, a topic you know absolutely nothing about

The company, a consultancy, went entirely bust due to a number of factors, one of which was likely that our competitors were underbidding us in a small and specialized market by selling customers slop.