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life pro tip: Don’t buy Pixels - they’re junk.

“My phone freezes and sometimes reboots when trying to use the camera, but that’s totally just an Android quirk”
Uh, no it’s not.

“Sometimes the bluetooth doesn’t work and my phone bootloops occasionally, but that’s normal - it’s happened on my last two phones!”
Were your last two phones also Pixels? googl_woozy

I’m gonna go digging up my old thread again. >.>

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@maddy I genuinely have not had any problem with my 7a. Tho I'm sunning graphene so... ymmv i guess lol
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@siblingsofthevoid Even the Xbox 360’s original revision with its 50% failure rate (Red Ring of Death) had ~50% that supposedly didn’t fail!

Yes, absolutely ymmv, but they don’t deserve y’alls money.

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@maddy I wish there were more alternatives, but I won't even consider anything that requires any interaction with a remote service that could go down at any moment (or running proprietary software on my computer, or agreeing to any kind of EULA/terms of service) in order to unlock my bootloader, and google pixels are one of the few models of phone that doesn't require that
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@maddy if i can ask, which pixel is it (and which one were the last ones)? i want to know if this is slightly older pixel behavior that has improved or current pixel behavior that has not improved

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@agatha I’ve personally seen and experienced common issues on pretty much every model from the OG to the 6/6a (except the 4a/5/5a, which notably had mid-range hardware), and I’ve heard from friends and acquaintances with hardware problems on the 7 and 8th gen.

I wouldn’t trust any of their hardware.

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@maddy my phone is eternally overheating and if i plug it into android auto it spends the entire time throttling
the pixel 10 sucks ass

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@doskel Really shitty that you got a bum device, and sucks to know they haven’t changed.

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@agatha @maddy i have a p10 pro. it sucks ass. it is Always overheating. it is Always throttling. the battery Sucks. 90% of the time it refuses to zoom past 4x when i tap the camera button because it's too hot. its modem is Not good. i hate it so much

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@agatha @maddy we did get a banging carrier deal to get it for like 300$
that also means i can't custom flash it, which is most of why i wanted it, but i suspect it's roughly the same experience either way :p

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@doskel @agatha Yeah… a custom ROM ain’t gonna fix hardware fucky-ness. :c

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@doskel @agatha I mean, technically there have been custom ROMs with workarounds for hardware flaws in the past. Throttling chipsets of older LG phones to prevent them from bootlooping and dying, stuff like that.

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@maddy @agatha ideally a custom rom would remove the gemini logo from the boot animation though
the priorities on this phone are actually hilarious. it struggles to play most games and has noticeably worse graphics performance than the pixel 9, but luckily they poured that silicon left over from the shit gpu into a tpu so that you can get like 2 tokens/sec on gemma e2b

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@doskel @agatha That butthole is part of the boot animation??? neofox_confused Gross.

Wouldn’t be the first time they had strange priorities. The Pixel 5 was sold as a flagship device that generation, with the internals of a mid-range phone.

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@maddy @agatha shoutout the pixel 4 just completely focusing in on the fuckass selfie radar. actually the best thing google's ever done

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@doskel @agatha I had completely stopped caring about their features by the point the 4th gen came out - I was already done with their shit.

The most standout feature of the 4th gen (4/4XL, not 4a) that sticks out in my mind is how they bolted the cowling that goes over the battery connector SO TIGHT from the factory that eventually with enough time and regular use, the board-side battery connector would come right off the PCB. googl_woozy

Common symptoms were: Battery not reporting charge percentage properly, bootlooping, charging issues

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@doskel @maddy @agatha what do you mean THEY PUT THE GEMINI LOGO IN THE BOOT ANIMATION lmaoooo that is a hard cope from google
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@agatha @maddy @doskel
part of the reason i got mine was to eventually put graphene on it (before anyone starts, this was before i knew) then i did some research afterwards and found out t-mobile only allows you to unlock your phone after *TWO GOD DAMN YEARS*

i should’ve just gotten a zflip 6…

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@agatha @maddy @doskel
also, seconded the cooling and battery issues

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@SeaDonut @agatha @maddy yeah that's the position i'm in lmao
probably still going to put graphene on it once the contract's up but mannn two years is so annoying. you can pay it off early and get it unlocked if you want, but then you lose the monthly bill credit that's where the discount actually comes from.
recent change btw, you used to be able to unlock early and keep the credit, but they took that away. so glad we signed up the Un-Carrier:tm:

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@agatha @maddy @doskel
did they have the same issue as the xbox 360 gpu where it go so hot i desoldered itself?

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Countering commonly spread Xbox 360/PS3 failure misinformation
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@SeaDonut @doskel @agatha That’s actually misinformation! Not true, but very commonly spread to the point that it’s accepted as truth.

Neither the Xbox 360 nor PS3 got so hot they could actually desolder themselves.

Some needed context - The CPU/GPUs are typically assembled in layers. The die is attached to the substrate, which is essentially the little PCB, sometimes with a heat spreader that is soldered to the main board. The die is attached to the substrate via microbumps (basically tiny tiny solder balls), and for structural integrity, something called underfill goes between the die and the substrate. The underfill cures and becomes solid, keeping the die solidly in place, not just relying on the tiny microbumps for structure.

The biggest issue with early PS3 and Xbox 360 revisions is that the underfill used on some of the chips was not up to spec. It was only tolerant up to a temperature like 75C, which a console will easily reach. The heating/cooling cycles from using and turning off the console could cause the underfill to become goopy again, which allowed the die to move around, potentially breaking connections with those vital microbumps.

Reflow/reballing only ‘works’ (temporarily) because it heats up the underfill as part of the process. The same faulty underfill that is only good up to 75C. When it ‘works’, it’s because the chip has aligned itself with the microbumps again.

That’s why reflow/reballing to repair these consoles is almost always bullshit, and it’s not necessarily the NEC/TOKIN caps on the PS3s either. A lot of it is the bad underfill.

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@maddy@thegayagenda.fans
I'd buy something else if graphene worked on other devices.
For now, thankfully I haven't had any issue and everyone in the household have a pixel with graphene.
I don't buy pixels for pixels, I buy them because I can install graphene on them.
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@agatha @maddy @doskel
heard about the underfill thing but i thought that was basically solder too

me being dumb moment #75837

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RE: Countering commonly spread Xbox 360/PS3 failure misinformation
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@SeaDonut Shit happens!

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