yeah no, i give up on nixos

just going to switch my other systems to aerynos

at least it has a full genai ban

how can people be so lenient towards literal fashtech

@lumi

Been trying out elementaryos recently as someone who’s pretty much exclusively a Mint guy up until now. How is Aerynos? Does it support Flatpak by chance?

#Aerynos #linux-mint #elementaryos #linux #fuck-ai #no-ai #ai #gen-ai

@cloudskater it’s alpha but it works really great

it’s an atomic distribution that works in a very simple way (as in literally just swapping /usr with a new one) and in my experience is rock solid

gets you most of the advantages of an immutable distro without the disadvantages

i like it enough that i contribute to the project :3

definitely recommend giving it a try!

and if you’re interested, join the zulip!

@cloudskater and yes it has full support for flatpak

anyway going to try and focus on positive stuff more, a lot of stuff in rapid succession made me really frustrated

@lumi oh, is arynos a new declarative distro or something?

@luana less than nixos, more than most distros

i really like its design tho

@lumi

Get productive fast with built-in tools like Zed Editor, Ptyxis terminal, and Starship prompt.

it is ironic for a project with a full genai ban to be including an “agentic” text editor that is “crafted for speed and collaboration with humans and AI” by default

To install AerynOS, your PC needs to be x86_64-v2 capable (Intel 1st gen Core/AMD FX-4/6/8xxx and up), have working UEFI firmware, and have an entire disk reserved for AerynOS.

do you know if aerynos has any plans to support architectures other than x86_64-v2 (specifically x86_64 without SSE4.2, aarch64, and ppc64le), or booting from BIOS/coreboot grub (most of my machines do not have UEFI)?

@lumi (🔷 Sadie - she/her) ya n my system both tbh…

-_-

@lumi I have the website for that distro open in a tab here... been eyeing it up.. 👀

@lumi It's utterly disappointing, but sadly not too surprising. Remember the Anduril thing(s) from not too long ago...

I unfortunately don't see myself migrating away from NixOS back to a more traditional distro anytime soon though, the package manager and declarative system management with rollbacks is just too damn nice... I hate this...

My hope is that some Nixpkgs alternative with good morals and the fucking spine to stand up against garbage like this eventually goes public, so I can drop from Nixpkgs and help with that...

@Puna @lumi You may not have to wait long!

Check out https://auxolotl.org/en/

They're making an alternative to nixpkgs from scratch, and they're trying to address some of the inherent nixpkgs community issues too.

They're currently (at last check) trying to implement a binary bootstrap, similar to how Guix does it. So no real package set yet, but it'll get there.

@abmurrow @Puna do they or will they have a full genai ban?

https://discourse.nixos.org/t/call-to-ban-ai-commits/78262/66

why do i even bother

they’ll just ignore all of the serious issues and focus on the quality issues because those are the only ones they can defend

@lumi i've basically given up on the nixos community with the whole shit about the involvement of fashy military companies..

i basically just keep using it for my servers because i have no alternative and only keep the gotosocial package up to date because i need that , and have just stopped engaging with everything else..

@lumi NixOS doesn't care overmuch about ethics, integrity or reproducibility given some of the things they accept that Guix would immediately refuse as far as Free Software goes.

@lumi @Puna I just took a look at their major repos, aux/lib and tidepool, and I didn't see anything. The community is still pretty small and early days yet. If you had an interest in using or contributing, you're always free to bring it up on their discourse to start the conversation.

@abmurrow @Puna aux could become a refuge for nixos users with objections to genai, hmm

it’s worth a shot. if aux gets a strict stance condemning it, it would cause an influx of these users

@lumi @Puna

It was set up as a refuge from nixpkgs users back when NixOS was undergoing the first round of controversy about sponsoring Anduril.

IIRC that was about the same time lix split off and people were looking for community forks.

Aux started up around that time, but instead of merely forking nixpkgs, they started doing their own thing to address some of the DX issues the community was facing.

The project is pretty ambitious-- nixpkgs isn't just a package set, it's also a set of builders, functions, and some pretty opinionated language conventions built upon layers of technical debt and well-meaning intentions, back before modern nix lang conventions existed. So to abandon it completely in favor of a different direction means rebuilding all of those tools from scratch too.

I wish them the best, because I'd love to see some more diversity in the landscape, and there inherently ought to be a community led fork that can self determine free from whatever is happening in nixpkgs.

https://discourse.nixos.org/t/call-to-ban-ai-commits/78262/71

wait did this person really call us an HOA

lmao

@lumi well they're right about one thing, this is fucking embarrassing, but not the thing they think.

@Puna @lumi I agree, i have the same issue,, NixOS is just too damn good. no traditional distro gives me the same good feeling that nixos does. most other atomic distros sucks and are inconvenient to use. guix is slow, outdated, and gnuslop so i'll pass on it