Nooooo gitoxide, not you too!

https://github.com/GitoxideLabs/gitoxide/blob/main/.github/copilot-instructions.md

https://github.com/GitoxideLabs/gitoxide/blob/main/.claude/instructions.md

#Git #GitOxide #AISlop

At this point, if a project is on GitHub it is slop until proven otherwise. I swear 8/10 cases it ends up being slop.

@justsoup systemd also did it

@fun Doesn't make it good. I disagree with systemd accepting LLM stuff too.

@justsoup I never said it did, more that it really is a shame..

apparently from my cursory looking (please don't quote me on that) they mainly only use LLMs for code reviews ........ already bad in itself :/

I suspect they generate code now too or will do so in the future.

@fun They do allow AI-generated content if it is "explicitly stated" that they used AI, since we all know how well that works.

For example, this commit was partially drafted using the Claude model

https://github.com/systemd/systemd/commit/58246e64082eadb0df77d0c7c4ca29e7b2b40ed5

@justsoup oh of course

all this makes me a lot more reluctant about switching to systemd on my host really

They only use Claude for reviews, and it is because Meta gave them API tokens for free.
They don't use generated code unless someone else contributes it.

@fun @justsoup

@pj @justsoup already bad in itself I think.

@pj @justsoup some linux maintainers are also going that route now :(

@fun @pj Yeah, we are seeing the fall of the "FOSS community" in real time, where the gap between hobbyists and corpos is made very quickly evident. When code is seen as a product to be pumped out instead of creativity to be written, LLMs seem like the holy grail. This doesn't mean that people that use LLMs are evil or something, just short-sighted with the chance to change.

@pj @justsoup besides, using claude because they were given api tokens for free, says a lot about principles..

@fun @pj That's one of the major issues with the systemd project to be honest. It doesn't have anything it *stands for*. Yet, if you criticize systemd for anything, you are lumped into the Lundunk supporter hates all change ever box. All nuance is lost.

@justsoup @pj (this is the perfect thread to be very clear that lunduke is a complete idiot)

@fun systemd is genuinely a very good software suite that has a lot going for it, don't let one bad decision (that could be worse honestly. Imagine if they did reviews with no human input like some projects) ruin all its good for you. Its like Linux. If they allow the usage of LLMs in their project, then its their problem when the CVEs start rolling in. We'll have to clean up their mess, but if they keep making one, people will eventually get tired of their antics.

@justsoup @fun To me it seems that you're either nay or yay in FOSS, no inbetween, like Wayland - it's impossible to have nuanced and constructive conversation :>

@pj @justsoup I like Wayland, but also I think many X11 DEs (xfce, mate...) are awesome too.. like, I can spend hours customizing MATE with its iconic old themes that never look boring to me :>

Wayland has its drawbacks like any other technology. (and so does X11)

@justsoup Yeah there's still humans around, so I'm not completely against systemd. But still, gives not so great vibes..