if it is open source, I don't care that it is American and if it is closed source I don't care that it is European

I think that best summarizes my thoughts on the whole digital sovereignty debate

@eloy the best open source projects are truly international, anyway

@jn very true

@eloy the best open source is supported by multiple entities working from multiple continents. This assures independence and proper cultural representation

US FOSS tend to be more libertarian, EU FOSS more social democratic. I prefer the latter. The US doesn't have an equivalent of NLNet, old style Bell Labs is probably the closest to it.

@eloy y'all first worlders are not ready for south american open source software

@eloy I always tend to hate it when some person brings up digital sovereignty and is like "yeah we at europe need software and infra in europe and open source in europe!!!!"

They just don't understand how open source works, open source has no barriers with regards to continents or countries. Everyone can and does contribute.

As for infra in Europe, they also completely miss the point. The *main* issue is centralised infra controlled by governments *IN GENERAL*, it not being american does not make the issue somehow less severe.

Welcome to politics, where politicians debate about stuff they have literally zero idea about.

@eloy That being said stuff like NLnet are absolutely awesome to have, I wish there were more similar orgs like them.

@eloy Even the janitor has a PHD? :)

@eloy any nationality of a software project comes from someone's control. If your free software has a nationality, you're probably doing it wrong