choose your laptop brand

• framework: forum moderation is bad, paid some infamous racists a few hundred bucks
• most other brands: directly funds the military industrial complex

@root Used old ass laptops that paying for will not contribute to the brand (directly at least)

@MarkAssPandi you expect me to run Helldivers 2 on integrated graphics? 💀

@root yeag
or like buy not that old ass used laptop that doesnt have integrated graphics idk

@MarkAssPandi hd2 barely runs on a 3060 😭

@root damn
bad game then
rip bozo
(/j)

@otter @MarkAssPandi too nonportable

@otter @MarkAssPandi still no dGPU

@otter @MarkAssPandi I mean I use a framework laptop 16. sure they did some shitty stuff but on the grand scale it’s not nearly as bad as the competitors

@otter @root Isn’t APU technically a type of Integrated Graphics?
Just more powerful than regular ones?

@MarkAssPandi @otter yuh

@root tbh this is ignoring the fact that a lot of the hardware gets sourced from the same manufacturers anyway (i.e. intel or amd for x86 cpus)

@zaki sure but dell is literally a military contractor 😭

@root and intel is now partly owned by the us government

@zaki you don’t really have a choice when it comes to hardware
you do when it comes to the laptop brand

@root i suppose you do, though the effect of such a decision is very much limited, given that they all depend on the very same hardware <small>(that’s the point i’m tryna drive home yeha)</small>

@root @otter well still its more powerful and works with helldiver 2 from what I’ve seen (it is deemed as “playable”, tho has to change default graphics settings lol) so its cool still

@root Also as far as I can tell, the sponsoring is “limited” to framework sending them laptops for said racists to test their distros on. Still not good, but it feels less bad to me than just sending money their way

@Stella @MarkAssPandi true

@root @MarkAssPandi its so fucking funny how badly it runs, switching to Linux fixed one issue (audio stuttering) and added about 2 others (more game stuttering, now with mid-mission crashes!)

@Stella @MarkAssPandi hd2 is truly one of the games of all time

@root it does strike me as a little funny at times when people are talking about trying to go for different brands or even replace the framework hardware they already have

Like,,, what other brands? HP?

And trying to replace an existing computer, in the process giving a bunch more money to Intel (BDS), AMD (BDS), NVIDIA (comparably evil), etc etc feels like a poorly thought out solution

@mossfet @root I’d argue it’s talked about because it’s the high end brand for once

@natty @root i think to some extent framework is being held to a higher standard because its seen of as sort of an "in-community" brand

@mossfet @natty @root yeah, they built their entire userbase out of autistic queers, claiming how they are all progressive, and then… lol

while with big brands it was never really in question

see also: raspberry pi - similarly built up a lot of goodwill being an underdog and then blew it all on hiring that cop

@natty @root @mossfet that’s not to say they were actually good, obv it’s just a marketing tactic, but I mean they did build up a lot of goodwill regardless, so people are more upset about them blowing it than about, idk, apple donating to trump