bornhak 2024 badge is REASONABLY BRIGHT

@aetios I'm really not sure what to do with my bornhack badges...

@langoor @aetios kinda hate how the badges always are a solution that need a problem... it's supposed to be the fun part I guess

@eloy @langoor I do like the 'ooh, what could we use this for' part.

Bornhack badges have been good in that aspect. badge.team badges have been a bit bland i guess

@aetios @langoor yeah the more limited the hardware the more challenging that part is :P

@aetios nice pile of eth0 stickers

@snow eloy does not have to worry about running out

@aetios @snow I am mostly annoyed they seem to have disappeared AGAIN, and I'm pretty sure it's not because they are all used since only very few stickers were taken during the event days

@aetios @snow but I still haven't unpacked all my luggage, sooo...

@aetios @eloy @langoor Yee EMF also had a bunch of really awsome badges that actually solve a problem

@evey @eloy @langoor I liked the flower badge

But what problem to they solve?

@aetios @eloy @langoor The flower badge is a really pretty fully customasbile name display that a lot of people actually like to wear and customise to there identity tbh.

@evey @eloy @langoor ok but it's still just a name display :p

@aetios @eloy @langoor Ye but like a fully Customasible thing that you can make part of your identity. Its one of the few badges i still see people wear and use for this at other events.

@evey @aetios @eloy idk, kinda feels the same as the WHY badge, or the bornhack lightsaber that Steph used with his Fursona as a name badge.

Handing out badges does always feel wastefull to me, even more so because I never do anything with them and just throw them in a drawer...

I also don't like wearing stuff around my neck, always feels like it's in the way.

@langoor @eloy @aetios Ye but just make them opt in or an added cost helps a lot here. Also with planning tbh

@evey @langoor @eloy I agree, I want a badge checkbox and unchecking gives a small discount

@aetios @evey @langoor I don't want the poorer visitors to be recognizable by the lack of a badge. But a checkbox is a good idea

@eloy @aetios @evey @langoor if its like why you won't notice. I think we've gotten used to getting the badge near the end of the event.

@eloy @aetios @evey @langoor Also makes sense to do the badge thing near the end. In the beginning of #WHY2025 for example I still knew who I was and could remember for 5 minutes who I was talking to. On the final days not so much

@EisT @aetios @evey @langoor IMO the badges should be handed out as early as possible, maybe even before the event so people have time to develop software and exchange it during the event

@aetios @evey @langoor I think, as a hacker, you should have a badge. Which you have customized on the hardware and software side and you have a somewhat deep understanding of. Events are too soon after each other to do this for every new badge, the default should be to use your previous badge and not the one of $current_event. It removes the monoculture of everyone wearing the same thing at an event, but it also turns old badges into status symbols which is meh.

@eloy @aetios @evey @langoor
> Which you have customized on the hardware and software side and you have a somewhat deep understanding of
aw sadge, im not a hacker then

@snow @evey @langoor @aetios I think the badge I had the most knowledge of was the SHA badge but I Still Forgor Anyway

@eloy @aetios @langoor Tbh the whole let’s slap a ESP on a board and call it a badge is a bit frustrating now a days, I miss the days of a cool chip with cool features to get it in as many peoples hands as possible badge era

@evey @aetios @langoor

Yeah, the ESP32 created a luxury problem by being able to do so much. We have to create problems for ourselves to have a cool challenge again.

@eloy @aetios @langoor The whole badge is a cool addon to your event, not a mandatory thing. And if you can't even get the basics done don't pour time and money in a badge, its quite a resource drain

@eloy @evey @aetios @langoor Eloy.SP32

@langoor@outerheaven.club @eloy @evey @aetios yeah its a if you are good with esp32 every problem looks like a problem that can be solved with an esp 32 without thinking abt other ways to do it.

@nachtpfoetchen @eloy @evey Next badge using a 6502 or 86k processor...

@nachtpfoetchen @eloy @evey (this would HIGHkey be so epic)

@aetios @evey @nachtpfoetchen @eloy actually interesting badge I would want to have

@hugh @evey @nachtpfoetchen @eloy taking notes...

@aetios @evey @nachtpfoetchen @eloy C64 SID badge for fun synth stuff would be cool. I don't know if you can still get SID chips?

But even then, I don't think it should be a) expected b) by default

@hugh @evey @nachtpfoetchen @eloy there are very good FPGA sid clones nowadays

originals are expensive - a music badge sounds like something new that hasn't quite been tried yet...

modular synth badge where every badge is slightly differently tuned and so you should try to connect to others

Neat idea, not evreyone is really into that i guess

@hugh @aetios @evey @nachtpfoetchen @eloy There are a few simulations of SID chip on the market, of various quality.

@hugh @aetios @evey @eloy I've been noodling with an idea of a badge with a DIN41612 connector, so when you get home you're encouraged to plug it in.

https://digicoolthings.com/minimalist-europe-card-bus-mecb/

@langoor @evey @eloy @aetios ++ to Langoor here

If people wanted to work on a badge together as a cool community thing to bring along to the event, which some attendees might be interested in buying, then I'd be more up for that.

But I don't like the "badge as a service" where it's become a default expectation, and moved away from making something cool/useful to just being a thing that needs to happen.

It's fine to run an event without a badge 🙂

@hugh @langoor @evey @eloy @aetios to be fair I spent most of cccamp23 writing a cute little app for the flow3r -- I didn't feel like it was just there as a placeholder

really half the solution I feel is making the badge something you pay for in advance, which avoids waste and means the badge team are somewhat encouraged to make it worth your while

@evey @eloy @aetios @langoor I've been part of "let's build a badge"-circle for german conferences pretty early on (in varying involvement). Starting with the eHaserl at EH2010, the r0ket, rad1o and fl0wer...

And while all of them are pretty, virtually all of them are in a box under my table. Some stock, some customized, some not even unwrapped.

I get how a badge brings people together - but it does feel like it's more a service to the people building the badge rather than the final users.

@martin @evey @eloy @langoor It's something to be mindful of and to think about.

@martin @evey @eloy @aetios @langoor I use a card10 as an air quality sensor. ;)