@whitequark @SnoopJ oh all irc format things are client-side: https://modern.ircdocs.horse/formatting#spoilers

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@moses_izumi I'd say it's slightly faster than my 2006 MacBook w/ Core 2 Duo

@moses_izumi oh I'm pretty sure they're much faster than that

it shouldn't be very hard to do, the battery's existing bms could help here

@whitequark so, no DMing or tab-highlight (except on irssi), unless the person is logged in to the bridge.

@whitequark it's a hack, basically a bot can impersonate nicknames that way so things become "<user|bot> hi" instead of "<bot> <user> hi", but that "user|bot" isn't actually part of the channel

@whitequark the effect is pretty cool on plumbed rooms though, matrix users on the plumbed matrix room that are logged in to the bridge appear as regular IRC users on IRC

@whitequark it does puppeting only for users that explicitely login to the bridge and are allowed. If not it uses ergo's RELAYMSG to relay messages.

@whitequark kind of but also no

@whitequark and btw, there is a work-in-progress bridge for Matrix<>IRCv3 called mautrix-irc in case you want to check that out https://github.com/mautrix/irc

It's tested mainly on Ergo so it might be interesting, though still alpha.

@whitequark Fair enough

@whitequark btw, what would it mean for the catircservices bridge you have running right now?

@azonenberg @whitequark it evolved a lot lately, I would say, and what do you mean by ugly?

@cas @whitequark soju is amazing, I switched to it a few years ago and never looked back

@whitequark which is completely understandable

@whitequark and you can even use the soju IRC bouncer if you need to connect to servers that don't support all of IRCv3

(also libera recently got quite a few of these perks: https://libera.chat/news/new-and-upcoming-features-3)

IRCv3 is shaping to be amazingly good!

here's the things it offers, today, right now, on a chat server we just set up in one evening:

• you don't need a bouncer (friggin finally)
• there are moblie clients that work well
• you can see backlog when joining a channel
• you can browse chat history
• you can connect from multiple devices with one account and nickname
• if you disconnect, your nickname is still present in a channel you joined, marked as away
• you can highlight or DM people who are away and they'll see your message when they join (without crutches like MemoServ)
• there is a "last read message" marker and it is synchronized between multiple connections
• messages have identifiers (and server timestamps) and replies can be tagged with the message you're replying to
• messages can be redacted (for moderation)
• you don't need to deal with fussy nonsense like NickServ authorization, ghosting, or such; connect with your username and password and that's it
• there are typing notifiers, if you want them
• there are message reactions, if you want them

here's the things it does not offer:

• image, video, or file uploads (actively worked on: https://github.com/ircv3/ircv3-specifications/pull/562)
• stickers
• complex onboarding tools

caveat: since IRCv3 is a true extension of IRCv2, the features listed above work if they're supported by both the server and the client. in my onboarding experience so far, people do not find it difficult to find a suitable client, but your mileage may vary. on the flipside, legacy clients will work just fine.

unexpectly, i realized that IRCv3 can completely replace Matrix rooms for my own group chat purposes, and i'm probably not going to set up any Matrix homeservers again; it's just not worth it and frankly I should instead put that effort into coming up with a file upload IRCv3 extension or something

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