GNU is fully struck from my list of things I will use willingly.
I will now actively avoid anything to do with GNU unless it's my only option or it's a very old version of their software.
What the fuck is wrong with them?
To be honest, it makes sense. They refuse to deal with RMS so why do I expect any different?
@mrmasterkeyboard unfortunately, at least for gcc, there really isn't a good alternative
@hexaheximal we need more alternatives.
@hexaheximal @mrmasterkeyboard Why isn’t clang a good alternative?
@shrub900 @mrmasterkeyboard llvm is slopware
@hexaheximal @mrmasterkeyboard llvm has existed for a quarter of a decade. it is arguably the most advanced compiler-related piece of software ever created, by human hands and human brains, with human ingenuity. just because a some LLM-generated code has been commited in the last 2 years does not make it “slopware”. I think that’s the a ridiculous take, frankly, and i think it hugely downplays the effort put in by humans.
@hexaheximal @mrmasterkeyboard to clarify, not to endorse or encourage the use of LLM’s, but any project that has existed for a 26y with hundreds if not thousands of real, dedicated,humans working on it is not slopware. LLVM is over 30 million loc. i’d imagine optimistically the upper bound of LLM generated code is 5-6%. that is to say, really not that much. if you really are so absolute about these things, you can use an old version.
@shrub900 @mrmasterkeyboard > not to endorse or encourage the use of LLM
Yes you are. Yes you absolutly are. Do not try and "wellll technically" me here, I know better than that.
It's not just about the code itself, it's about the ethical decisions going into them. Not to mention the many copyright issues.
I know this, and by now you should know this.
I'm not going to entertain this argument any further.
@hexaheximal @mrmasterkeyboard To each their own. That aside, I recommend you an old version of LLVM/Clang from 2022-2024. they compile C code just as well as they did back then, without the involvement of GNU and all the rats that come with them.
@mrmasterkeyboard I think you are overestimating the amount of central control GNU has over invididual packages. For example, there are several GNU packages hosted on GitLab.com and GitHub (specifically GNU Mailman and GNU Radio, maybe more), both of which require proprietary JavaScript to use and are officially considered by GNU to be unacceptable for hosting GNU packages.