i have a feeling that everyone who is arguing about LLMs in the sense of stuff like productivity, quality of the output, performance or functionality of generated code, largely even licensing or whatnot is kinda missing the point

even if LLMs generated the best code in the world, i would not be using them

even if LLMs gave me the biggest ever productivity boost i would not be using them

even if the output was clean copyright-wise and fully original, i would still not be using them

i can't consciously support a worldwide slop machine that helps and finances the rise of fascism, that helps further oppression, that helps a bunch of billionaires control public opinion, that drives society-wide psychosis with far-reaching consequences, that attempts to strip all joy from activities people like while using that to make the rich even richer, and that's not even getting to environmental stuff or whatever

i'm getting left behind you say

well fuck your industry and fuck you

@q66 THIS - ALL OF THIS!

• TYSM FOR THESE WORDS!!!

@q66 and the then-illegal extraction of creative humans’ works against consent and bringing the internet to the knees…

… there’s just so many things wrong with the LLMs, every single one is pretty much enough to refuse them, indeed.

well said

@q66 i’m not even using this shitty technology and i’m already paying the price in bandwidth and increased idle CPU usage on my infra. hecking pain.

from the perspective of a sysadmin sharing stuff for free, I wouldn’t use LLMs even if all of the issues you listed were solved. ffs

@q66 if i can't get hired for what i like, then i only do it because i like it, and i don't fear being "left behind"

@q66 there are so so many reasons too be against genai, and the quality one is one of the weakest, yeah

@q66 so true.. and what i really hate, is that more an more foss projects jump on that wagon too.. its becomming really hard to find software which codebase i can 'trust'

@q66 this feels full Stallman

@openbuddha is this ironic or should i just go and block you

@q66 I typically mention copyright issues, unproductivity and bad code to the uninitiated, but yes the issues with LLMs are deeper than just that.

And personally, really I just .. like writing code myself?
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