Gotta love when some excited developers share some ideas they have on their head, only for some unrelated troll to pretend to be a developer and troll people with extremely deceptive replies.

These excited developers, instead of getting constructive feedback and all, they get insults, deceptive feedback, attacks. All that because they wanted to share ideas they had on how to move forward (no code was yet written).

Sound familiar?

For those who didn't understand, I am indeed talking about Flatpak

And before some people come screaming at me like I don't care about non-systemd use cases.

I run OpenRC on my main daily driver laptop.

@fun I'll never understand why some people/organizations make it their life's work to spread FUD even if it means constantly throwing people who get shit done under the bus.

Oh right, it's for money. It's always for money.

@noisytoot he's *only* a flathub maintainer, not actually a flatpak developer working on the v2 internals.

@noisytoot at least he's in the flathub github org

@craftyguy Either money or throwing specific people under the bus is their goal... or both

@craftyguy either way it's just tiring. We should all be united and work towards bringing a *good* ecosystem to compete with the proprietary walled gardens. Yes, there will be disagreements on how to implement things, and yes that may lead to other implementations of the same thing down the road, doing things differently (which is not bad actually, as long as it's *healthy* competition, like e.g. what postmarketOS is to Mobian). But we won't be able to achieve a good, open free software ecosystem if trolls are constantly spreading FUD, constantly attacking people, constantly naming folks, basically trying to divide all of us.

And I also want to say: getting death threats in your email inbox each morning, as a free time open source maintainer, shouldn't become the new normal.

@fun it's almost always for the clicks/views/sponsorships. The people thrown under the bus are "expendable" to them.

@craftyguy well they succeeded at it

@fun yeah it is tiring, and distracting, and demotivating, and hurtful.

 16:47 <f_> I guess one is no longer allowed to share drafts of ideas they have on the top of their head without someone else trolling and making all this a huge controversy for no reason

@noisytoot and like, from his replies, it is very clear all he wants was attention and creating drama.